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Post by keff on Jan 19, 2023 11:55:58 GMT
What happens if you are over 7 Oh? The words of the first verse are; This day and age we're living in gives cause for apprehension, With speed and new invention, and things like third dimension, ( here he missed a trick should have been forth)Yet, we get a trifle weary, with Mr.Einsteins theory, So we must get down to Earth, at times relax, relieve the tension. No matter what the progress, or what may yet be proved, The simple facts of life are such they cannot be removed. The music is also very different and can be unrecognisable although the first four bars give a good clue as to what is coming up. I do have a recording made in lockdown but the piano was getting quite out of tune. When you find out how quantum computers function and what the capabilities are please let me know.
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Post by Zi on Jan 19, 2023 12:08:06 GMT
Thank you! It's wonderful. If you ever do a version you're willing to share then I hope we get to hear it! Frankly, my hearing is now so iffy I probably couldn't tell out of tune anyway! What happens if you are over 7 Oh? [img alt=" " src="//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png" When you find out how quantum computers function and what the capabilities are please let me know. I thought the idea was that the answer wouldn't be the answer until you looked at it?
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Post by evergreen on Jan 20, 2023 0:10:46 GMT
One of Vaughan Williams's symphonies started life as a film score I think, can't remember which one Are you thinking of Sinfonia Antartica, which started life as the soundtrack to Scott of the Antarctic? I gather RVW was insistent about giving the symphony the Italian spelling, ie not Sinfonia Antarctica.
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Post by pavane on Jan 20, 2023 10:29:37 GMT
Yes, that is probably it. I didn't know about the name, I've never noticed the spelling and would have called it Antarctica. Mind you, I've alway found the fact that Ralph is pronounced Rafe somewhat enigmatic, so why not a little more mystery?
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Post by pavane on Jan 20, 2023 15:45:08 GMT
I've just been listening to a lot of film music on the radio. There are various reasons why I feel I ought to like Leonard Bernstein's music, but I don't. My ears have just been assailed by the Mambo from West Side Story. What a racket!
Apparently Angelo Badalamenti died last month, an event that passed me by at the time. I did like some of his music.
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Post by keff on Jan 20, 2023 16:44:44 GMT
The words Mambo and racket made me chuckle. In my opinion he was a great musician and teacher but if you have watched the documentary made of him conducting a recording of West Side Story he didn't appear to gel with Jose Carreras.
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Post by evergreen on Jan 20, 2023 17:30:25 GMT
The performance of Mambo in West Side Story is tame compared with this anarchic version by Dudamel and the Simon Bolivar Orchestra - enjoy (or not )!
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Post by evergreen on Jan 20, 2023 17:32:41 GMT
if you have watched the documentary made of him conducting a recording of West Side Story he didn't appear to gel with Jose Carreras. I was already a fan of Jose Carreras when that documentary was broadcast, and I thought LB was horrible to him. It put me off Kiri te Kanawa as well.
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Post by pavane on Jan 21, 2023 10:16:22 GMT
The performance of Mambo in West Side Story is tame compared with this anarchic version by Dudamel and the Simon Bolivar Orchestra - enjoy (or not )!
That is the very one that was on the radio! I thought it had driven me even more up the wall than the one I checked on youtube (mainly to make sure I'd got the right info about the title etc), but it was on the car radio so I wasn't paying all that much attention. I stick by "racket"!
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Post by Zi on Jan 21, 2023 12:56:01 GMT
Goodness that was awful. Didn't manage to get very far in before it brought on the tinnitus. I couldn't figure out if it was a mistake to let the audience join in or it would have been better without the orchestra...
I love West Side Story. It's so vibrant and catchy. Tonight is just one of those songs!
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Post by Zi on Jan 24, 2023 11:30:37 GMT
I came across a vid of the 10th anniversary celebrations for Skyrim. The LSO did it with a London Choir. It was brilliant. In took place in Nov 2021 so people are wearing masks but they clearly had a wonderful time. The original soundtrack was made with a very small choir and they double tracked so it's impressive to see a larger choir tackle some of it. I can play the theme and bits (a medley really) on the recorder - and it's lovely - like the lone voice singing in the original score but it really does need more of an orchestra to give it some oomph! Some of the comments on the vid are really touching... the 67 year old who found Skyrim and solace in the soundtrack and the environment. I feel fairly confident that future generation will listen to this and to film scores and realise that the composers were extremely clever at creating not just atmosphere but wonderful memorable music. They finished with the new score from Starfield - not yet release but I wasn't so impressed... relieved to find it wasn't Soule who'd written it! We've just been watching some adventure type films. We've seen (again) All the Back to the Futures where the music is so integrated into that film that I wonder what it'd be without it. I always think Jaws is like that too. We then saw Indiana Jones (ditto, that music and those films are as one). We followed it by Terminator (all of them except IV which I've never managed to fathom) - simple, repetitive score played as robotic or on the piano depending what they want to convey - human frailty or the menace of the machines. Simple, but very effective. We went on to Burton's Batman and I can't remember what the music was; ditto Nolan's Batman - where he uses music in a very different way and it didn't have an impact on me - though the films did! So, I wonder actually how many scores have made the film. Jaws without its theme wouldn't be half as scary I'm sure. And Psycho without those violins, unthinkable.
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Post by evergreen on Jan 24, 2023 19:56:59 GMT
So, I wonder actually how many scores have made the film. Jaws without its theme wouldn't be half as scary I'm sure. And Psycho without those violins, unthinkable. I'm a big fan of John Barry's film music and I think I would put Born Free into that category. Also by John Barry, I can't think of the film Out of Africa without associating it with the theme music, although I wouldn't put it in the same category as having "made" the film in the way the music for Jaws or Psycho did.
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Post by Zi on Jan 25, 2023 11:14:31 GMT
evergreen - my rambling post was definitely Kiftsgate or Rambling Rector but you see what I mean! I'm going to stick my neck out now and say my final line - I think classical music is alive and well; just not entirely where it might be expected to be...
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Post by pavane on Jan 29, 2023 12:28:45 GMT
I'm going to stick my neck out now and say my final line - I think classical music is alive and well; just not entirely where it might be expected to be... Well, maybe... I have two reservations about this: - Some film music either lends itself to performance away from the film, or a performance version is created by the composer, but some does not: the shrieky violins in Psycho are a good example (maybe!) - they are great in the context of the film, not something I'd sit and listen to on their own. This is a bit of a lazy assertion that I can't be bothered to think through properly, but I think the music for horror films in general might fall into that category: amazingly powerful emotionally but really only works in the context of the film it accompanies.
- "Programme music" has been around for a long time, and was particularly popular during the Romantic period; controversy about it has also been around for a good while. Composers, though, have generally had a choice about the extent to which their music reflects some particular programme - it might just be generally evocative of a sunny day, say. That's not really true of film scores: they have to be jolly during the jolly bits of the film, and the shrieky violins have to play at exactly the right moment. It seems to me that there is some constraint there that a composer would not be bound by if writing something other than a film score.
When it comes down to music that is written solely to be performed, it seems to me that there is very little that is being written today that, for whatever reason, survives much longer than its world premier performance.
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Post by keff on Jan 29, 2023 12:57:16 GMT
Thomas Ades does get replayed and perhaps James MacMillan too but I don't really understand their music. Have we mentioned Benjamin Britten in this thread? I had a look backwards but his name didn't pop out. Two modern composers that have caught the public ear is Karl Jenkins and Gorecki who had a memorable hit on Classic FM with his Symphony of Sorrowful Songs.
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