|
Post by pavane on Jan 31, 2023 18:14:59 GMT
Almost everything! Why didn't I stick with saxophone?? At least I'm not the only one...
Two musicians at a bar. "Someone stole my clarinet." "I wish someone would steal mine."
What's the difference between a clarinet and an onion? Nobody cries if you chop up a clarinet. (You could probably say this about a lot of instruments!)
|
|
|
Post by keff on Jan 31, 2023 18:56:30 GMT
In a Cheltenham restaurant a few years ago and having dinner before attending an orchestral concert in the town hall it became apparent that three of the orchestra's musicians were also having dinner at the next table. The musicians seemed to be enjoying both food and (alcoholic) drinks. Whilst bills were being settled only one musician was left at their table and I was alone at ours. Engaging in conversation I said "I am unable to read music after having a drink". "Me too" he replied.
If I want to encounter tricky bits then all I need do is pour a glass of wine with dinner.
|
|
|
Post by Zi on Jan 31, 2023 21:31:56 GMT
keff - You found the crotchet! Great! I think that has made my day!
|
|
|
Post by Zi on Feb 1, 2023 10:19:59 GMT
Almost everything! Why didn't I stick with saxophone?? At least I'm not the only one... Is the saxophone easier than the clarinet? [Thinks ... it's not too late to swap...]
|
|
|
Post by pavane on Feb 1, 2023 10:48:05 GMT
Is the saxophone easier than the clarinet? [Thinks ... it's not too late to swap...] Yes, I'm sure it is - all these things are a bit subjective, but almost everything I've ever read takes that point of view, and having tried both, I agree with it.
It makes sense that it should be so, I think. The clarinet has evolved in a relatively hotchpotch manner over a couple of centuries (albeit that Klosé made major changes that have remained largely unaltered since) whereas the sax was "invented" by an expert in instrument technology. It overblows an octave which makes the fingering much easier. It has no open tone holes: not only are these easier to play (I know you have a plateau clarinet) but holes can be positioned and sized primarily for acoustic reasons without worrying too much about whether they can be reached and covered by a finger. They have automatic octave keys that change the position of the vent hole according to what part of the register you are in which improves intonation - the instrument does it for you. Because of overblowing an octave, there are no "throat notes" needed to bridge the gap, so you don't need to work on improving their often patchy tone; it's also easier to jump from lower to upper register because the jump is smaller - B♭ to C is a horrible jump on the clarinet. Because of the full mechanism there is no note like that notorious B♭ that uses the register vent as a tone hole. It's even easier to look after because it's metal, not wood.
It still uses reeds, so you have to deal with those either way. It's also a transposing instrument. I think the clarinet has a nicer sound, but that really is subjective.
I think the main drawback is the weight, they really are much heavier than a clarinet. However, that is slightly offset by the shape which means that you can support the sax with a sling that puts the keys under your fingertips while at the same time putting the mouthpiece in a good position to blow into. I have personally found that a sling with a clarinet does one or the other but not both.
If you are seriously considering a bit of experimenting - and why not! - the most obvious choice might look like soprano because it's smallest and lightest and most like a clarinet. However, it's not the easiest to play. Alto is probably the best place to start. Because they are so widely played they are available for very reasonable prices - Thomann do a cool-looking black one for €400 but you can get good quality 2nd hand instruments easily. There's loads of support, online resources, etc, for all kinds of saxophone. Lots of places sell and service them.
|
|
|
Post by Zi on Feb 1, 2023 11:14:18 GMT
sigh... I knew about the sax being invented by Mr Sax because Peter Gammond in The Bluffer's Guide mentions that as something one could drop into a conversation. He says you can try the same with Mr Gram and Mr Xyl but not to go too far with that... I didn't realise that he had been so structured about it and what you say makes it sound a good deal easier. But I'm struggling with the weight of the clarinet so maybe sax isn't such a good idea. I'd try alto as the soprano is a bit squeaky and it's the only instrument I've heard Mr Z say he doesn't like... I don't deliberately go out of my way to be annoying...
|
|
|
Post by pavane on Feb 1, 2023 11:23:38 GMT
I don't deliberately go out of my way to be annoying... Really had to bite my tongue (or should that be finger) when I read that
|
|
|
Post by Zi on Feb 1, 2023 11:35:39 GMT
I don't deliberately go out of my way to be annoying... Really had to bite my tongue (or should that be finger) when I read that
|
|
|
Post by evergreen on Feb 1, 2023 14:15:31 GMT
The alto sax is supposedly the easiest of the sax family to start with. I believe soprano is very difficult to get a good sound out of, and the tenor sax is very heavy (one of my friends had one and I could barely lift it). I've also picked up along the way that it's supposedly easier than the clarinet, at least for beginners.
You might find you get used to the weight of the clarinet and that your thumb gets used to it. I've never found a clarinet sling very comfortable or easy to play with, so I've never used one. Similarly did you say somewhere that you mouth kept vibrating? That should stop once your embouchure has got more used to playing. If your mouth/lips are vibrating, I think that's a sign that your mouth muscles are weak, but they get stronger with practice. Once your embouchure gets tired, it's best to give it a rest.
|
|
|
Post by Zi on Feb 1, 2023 16:52:35 GMT
evergreen - Thank you! Realistically, 15 minutes is enough for the whole household! Luckily we live in a very rural setting or the villagers would probably arrive with pitchforks and that would be clarinet curtains... Have you decided to dust yours down? The clarinet not the curtains!
|
|