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Post by pavane on Jan 21, 2023 17:02:45 GMT
There is a nice video just out from Les Musiciens de Saint-Julien (who produce quite a lot of interesting material, so worth a look for their other stuff too). This is all about articulation, incl double tonguing. It's all played on traverso but I think would be pretty much equally applicable to recorder (I know of them because of their recorder connections).
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Post by anacrusis on Jan 21, 2023 21:54:44 GMT
whooooaaa that was some amazing articulation for Amarilli at the end (at least, I think it was Amarilli). I got completely sidetracked by the fact that as native French speakers, they were talking about the form of double tonguing advocated by Quantz (di-d'll) as being really difficult to learn... as a native English and German speaker, it's the only form of double tonguing I can reliably produce! Lovely to see such a range demonstrated. I have been told my double tonguing is too soft, so maybe I ought to try again with the other forms, not least because I'll need at some point also to learn some for my oboe...
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Post by pavane on Jan 22, 2023 8:27:27 GMT
Yes, it was interesting to listen to it in French, and some amazing articulation indeed. I have no idea if this is true (it doesn't sound very probable), but I read somewhere that woodpeckers can peck so quickly because they have some sort of nerve loop that bypasses the brain and thus allows the movement to repeat at greater speed. Something similar seems to be going on here!
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Post by Zi on Jan 24, 2023 18:25:54 GMT
I finally had a chance to watch this. Thank you so much for posting it. It's really interesting to hear someone go through the various articulations. I've seen them written down but it's very different when someone actually pronounces them for you.
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Post by Zi on Jan 25, 2023 14:08:15 GMT
I have to share Edgar Hunt again. I thought Dolmetsch was opinionated but Hunt could go to that place as well. Here he is talking about vibrato...
"It consists of a series of silent Hs (as if saying: 'ha, ha, ha, ha,' silently and fairly quickly). Much breath is wasted and ink spilt in attaching this form of vibrato, by people who have not troubled to study its possibilities..."
Is he getting dangerously close to suggesting huffing and that obviously would have upset some recorder players! I do like Hunt's book very much, BTW. He writes extremely well.
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Post by pavane on Jan 25, 2023 17:55:23 GMT
I enjoyed Hunt's book, but he's certainly not shy about saying "this is how it is".
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Post by Zi on Jan 26, 2023 9:18:03 GMT
I enjoyed Hunt's book, but he's certainly not shy about saying "this is how it is". They all seem quite opinionated. Maybe it's the recorder... I've nearly finished so I'm trying to work out what to read next. I might try the Cambridge thing... Hunt did an awful lot for the recorder so I guess he is entitled to his opinions. I don't get the impression he would have made an easy house guest!
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Post by keff on Jan 26, 2023 10:09:39 GMT
I don't think it is just the recorder. When it comes to interpretation and articulation I believe the same is true amongst pianists but I'm not sure if these people would agree between themselves. I need interpretation help with the Bach I am playing but this is why I engage a piano teacher. When it comes to jazz or music that has been arranged she says I can almost do anything I like with it.
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Post by Zi on Mar 31, 2023 9:59:58 GMT
I've been playing around with some new tonguing. Linde mentions some in his book and actually some of my other reading has gone batting on about it so I thought I'd give some a whirl. Today, I've been trying Du-ru. It's a really interesting more legato and flowing effect.
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