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Post by keff on Jan 7, 2024 15:28:18 GMT
A friend has been asked to play piano accompaniment for a violinist she doesn't know. The request has come from her new piano teacher who also teaches the violin and presumably the person wanting to be accompanied.
My friend has no experience of duetting with a violinist and has asked me if I can play the violin part on piano whilst she practises the piano part. I haven't seen the music so don't know if this will be possible using one piano.
I'm expecting to see the music later today or tomorrow and am thinking that I could easily record the violin part on piano and upload it to Whyp so friend could at least play the recording as she learns her part. The question I ask is, are there any better ways of doing this?
Forum members may remember my attempt at learning violin last year. The piece is grade 5 violin in C major so I guess it is likely to be beyond me.
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Post by Zi on Jan 7, 2024 18:26:50 GMT
Could you enter the score in Muse and choose 'violin' as the instrument and then use the play back?
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Post by keff on Jan 7, 2024 18:41:22 GMT
Could you enter the score in Muse and choose 'violin' as the instrument and then use the play back? That may be the thing to do but Muse seems to be a rock group website. Wonder if it could be found in Free-scores.com. Thanks for the suggestion. |
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Post by Zi on Jan 7, 2024 18:50:01 GMT
I meant this: musescore.org/enIt would mean putting the score into Muse though unless you can find it somewhere - as you say Freescores might have it. I tried putting in some notes into Muse and playing back as violin. It's not a great sound but it'd give your friend the general idea... |
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Post by keff on Jan 7, 2024 18:55:44 GMT
I meant this: musescore.org/enIt would mean putting the score into Muse though unless you can find it somewhere - as you say Freescores might have it. I tried putting in some notes into Muse and playing back as violin. It's not a great sound but it'd give your friend the general idea... Thanks again Zi. |
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Post by Zi on Jan 7, 2024 19:11:52 GMT
No problem. Maybe some of the others will have some ideas. Could the violinist record their own part maybe? I bet playing accompaniment to a pre-recorded soloist is seriously hard though... It's bad enough the other way round...
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Post by pavane on Jan 9, 2024 9:38:16 GMT
This is not an answer: I think that, for the time being, this problem remains intractable. I tried, a while ago, a piece of software that could read music and convert it to some sort of xml file, from which a midi file could be generated. It was extraordinarily complicated - the software could (just about) read a melody line so long as the time signature and key were straightforward and there wasn't much by way of additional markings or text to confuse it, but I never got it to come close to reading a piano score. Usually lots of corrections had to be made manually. In the end, what came out of the speakers was hard to describe as "music". Obviously if you can start with a machine-readable score the biggest problem is removed from that scenario, though I still have doubts about the usefulness of what you end up with.
Look back, say, 10 or 15 years and things like speech recognition, natural language translation, etc, were so awful one tended to think that they would never work. Music software might follow a similar trajectory, but it hasn't yet.
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Post by keff on Jan 9, 2024 12:17:06 GMT
Thanks for the responses. I have just received a telephone call from my pianist friend. The person who wanted the piano accompaniment has changed his mind, at least for the time being !
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Post by Zi on Jan 9, 2024 12:48:20 GMT
pavane - I'd agree with that. The freescore score I'm using at the moment can be read by Muse but I haven't actually looked to see what file format its using. The text reading thing has come a long way but it's still iffy and needs some interpretation... keff - Glad to help. Playing accompaniment isn't easy. When I had lessons it was taken for granted that I'd play with an accompanist and other recorder players but I'm not sure how much a pianist is expected to do in the course of earning grades. It sounds like your friend's teacher is taken that bit on board as well which personally I think is really good!
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